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 Post subject: Re: 06/11-Petition Signing: Help put NPV Law on Ballot
Post Posted: Jun 9, 2019 9:04 am 
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I'm thinking the same thing CROWHILLROB. I'm wondering if these people know what they are actually signing. If this petition is being falsely represented? As you said, any sane person would still want the Electoral College so that our vote DOES count!! :yikes:


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Post Posted: Jun 9, 2019 3:04 pm 
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Any sane person would want this to be repealed so that our votes in Colorado matter. Who would want California and New York to have even more power over us in the heart of the country? The electoral college is very much needed!

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I'm thinking the same thing CROWHILLROB. I'm wondering if these people know what they are actually signing. If this petition is being falsely represented? As you said, any sane person would still want the Electoral College so that our vote DOES count!! :yikes:

Exactly right...the volunteer petition circulators agree that Colorado votes matter. Which is why they are spending their valuable time trying to collect enough signatures to get the National Popular Vote bill that Gov Polis passed into Colorado law this March.

The National Popular Vote is now Colorado law, and will stay that way if we just sit back and do nothing.
https://kdvr.com/2019/03/15/gov-polis-signs-national-popular-vote-bill-into-law/

We need your signature to force state politicians to put this new law on the Nov 2020 ballot so Coloradans can decide if we should keep it the law in Colorado, or repeal it.

Please take the time to learn what these volunteer circulators are working so hard for: https://coloradansvote.org/


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 (12-2pm): Sign NPV Petition @ King Soopers
Post Posted: Jun 9, 2019 3:14 pm 
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Excuse me but neither Polis or Colorado can pass any law regarding this, that is useful or effective. It is clearly stated, "The Supremacy Clause, Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land."

Just sayin' ;)


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Post Posted: Jun 9, 2019 3:24 pm 
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The constitution leaves up to the states to decide how to determine their electors. Some states have all their electors vote for the candidate that won the popular vote in the state and some states apportion their electors according to the percentage of the popular vote. The clause you stated, SXM_Beach , does not preclude states from ignoring the popular vote choice in their state when determining how their electors may vote.


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Post Posted: Jun 9, 2019 7:41 pm 
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SXM_Beach wrote:
Excuse me but neither Polis or Colorado can pass any law regarding this, that is useful or effective. It is clearly stated, "The Supremacy Clause, Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land."

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Yes they can! in your constitutional opinion above, you've not accounted for Article II, section 1, second paragraph, which states, in part.

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress:...

But this particular legislation is a compact between other states, and will have no affect on our electors unless enough other states also sign on to it, insuring a majority of the total electors. Because of that compact, I'm of the opinion that it violates Article I, section 10, paragraph 3, of the Constitution, which states.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, ... enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, ...

I'm also of the opinion, that instead of waiting for this issue to continue in other state legislatures, and to be litigated before the Supreme Court, we should use other available means to stop it now. One of those options is to sign this petition to put an initiative on the 2020 ballot to repeal this law, that the Colorado legislature has passed.


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Post Posted: Jun 10, 2019 9:59 am 
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SXM_Beach wrote:
Excuse me but neither Polis or Colorado can pass any law regarding this, that is useful or effective.

Did you even see this...
The National Popular Vote is now Colorado law, and will stay that way if we just sit back and do nothing.
https://kdvr.com/2019/03/15/gov-polis-s ... -into-law/
    Why would anyone want this to sit on our books until it DOES become effective?
    If states trending continues, the compact will become effective, and Coloradans votes will become irrelevant.

We refuse to sit back and let politicians continue to push loophole legislation to bypass our Constitution. The most effective way to try to defeat this is petitioning to put the law on ballot so all Coloradans can decide to repeal it BEFORE it does becomes effective.

BTW...there are some reasonable Democrat leaders out there that understands the dangers of the NPV movement (unfortunately not in Colorado).
NPV fails in Nevada: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/446174-nevada-democratic-governor-vetoes-national-popular-vote-bill


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Enstrom: National Popular Vote wrong for Colorado
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Our forefathers intentionally designed a system that helped preserve the voices of smaller states, which Colorado has come to appreciate. Let’s not thumb our noses at their wisdom by joining the National Popular Vote compact and giving away our clout to the urban coastal states.

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